Heya! As promised, albeit some time ago, here’s our new videoblog, featuring Chantilly Chocolate Orange (a trick to make a mousse using nothing but chocolate and orange juice) and some discussion of the future of KKC. Let us hear your comments!
Weeza | 2009-09-08 19:09:45 UTC
Yay! You’re back :)
I’d like more video blogs and definitely like to see more live events. We really enjoyed the last one! They are a good excuse for the BBKKCAS to get together :)
Jonas | 2009-09-08 19:35:22 UTC
In short: yes.
In more detail: The biggest strength of Kamikaze Cookery was you guys sitting around talking and being funny. That and the interesting cooking-related infos (obviously). It’s not that the rest was bad, but I honestly think that 99% of the fun was just watching a group of witty people cooking with science. If you keep that and put the nice intro from the first season in front of it (I thought it was very amusing), you’ll have a very enjoyable show.
I thought the sound was perfectly all right in the first season, by the way. I’m sure there were a few bumps here and there, but nothing really awful. Today’s episode is a bit more problematic in that respect, but I’m sure you can work that out.
As for the live shows, I thought the first one was great fun. I do think it would be much nicer to put together some of the clips into an actual episode, though. It doesn’t have to be something you put thirty hours of editing into – it can just be the clips you released in chronological order, plus a few photos, and maybe an amusing voiceover. That shouldn’t kill you postproduction-wise, but it would feel more satisfying to the fans.
And my wife would like me to say that she wants to know more about the piña colada.
Dougal Stanton | 2009-09-08 22:25:12 UTC
Hey, glad to see there’s still life in the KKC team!
New camera is shit hot (unless that was solely the effect of HD YouTube) and I’m looking forward to more of the whatever you can produce!
Fhtagn | 2009-09-08 22:37:55 UTC
All of the above sound good. I enjoyed the live show (though didn’t watch it live) and its format – the text interspersed with pictures was a brilliant way of getting across the interesting bits of cooking complicated recipe without the boring bits, showing the fiddly bits and giving plenty of opportunity for humour.
Morgan | 2009-09-08 22:45:51 UTC
I agree completely with Jonas.
Victor Wong | 2009-09-09 02:36:20 UTC
I wouldn’t mind seeing more “live” stuff, but I honestly think you’re going to need a separate sound recording system in order to pull it off right.
Simon | 2009-09-09 03:03:50 UTC
Welcome back KKC.
I agree completely with Jonas.
And may I say, in my experience, people prefer better sound over bad images – not vice versa.
Hugh | 2009-09-09 10:33:42 UTC
Thanks for all the great comments, guys! This is really encouraging – we’ll definitely be doing more and soon now.
Sound – yep, the sound here is awful. I’m using the built-in mic on the camera, basically because I’m being lazy, and I wanted to see how it came out (clipping-tastic). We’ll be back to the Rode VideoMic for future stuff.
Jonas – That’s very interesting to hear. Sitting around and being funny we can do! We’ll look into more loosely-edited stuff. It’s also worth noting that we don’t yet know how much an improved workflow with the new camera will speed things up – might be quite a bit.
Victor – Yeah, the sound for the last live thing had huge Issues. We’re going to work on it. We might even find an Actual Sound Guy to give us some help!
Dougal – yeah, the camera’s awesome, isn’t it? That’s with no artificial lighting and only one light source, too.
Fhtagn – very interesting. The text/video combinations are easier to produce, too – glad to hear they work, and I can see the reasoning why.
Overall – I’m going to chat to Paul and Alex. I think we might look at doing another live thing as our next project, and then look at doing an episode (perhaps the long-delayed Liquid Nitrogen) in the near future.
Keep the comments coming if you have more!
Sandra Stewart | 2009-09-09 14:34:33 UTC
Hey great to see Hugh online again!
I think that recipe may be too fussy for me – too many stages for the outcome – but it actually does look rather simple and delicious!
I would love to see you guys do whatever you like in whatever form works best for you. The quality of the video doesn’t matter nearly so much as the informational content and you guys are quite witty and fun to listen to.
Verena | 2009-09-09 16:06:46 UTC
Hi, Jonas’s wife speaking.
Just wanted to say that I love your show. Whatever you do, don’t stop making it. Normal Person vs. was always my favourite part, but I also loved the live event, though I understand that I only got really crazy after I left. I’m greatly looking forward to whatever Kamikaze Cookery will come up with in the future.
Also, the new camera looks great but I’m with Simon on the sound question.
Suzi xWx | 2009-09-09 18:50:06 UTC
That looks awesome. Must try it. Now.
Video blogs are good, however the angle could be improved!
Nice to have you back.
Verena | 2009-09-09 20:23:19 UTC
Ops… It, I mean. It got crazy after I left.
Robert J Lee | 2009-09-09 20:41:36 UTC
Welcome back!
Personally, I prefer the episodic format to the idea of an informal video-blog (especially if the quality could be pushed up to proper pre-produced TV levels), but I’m not sure if that’s just my respect for the work that goes into it, and/or my aversion to blogs, rather than for any really good reason. Whichever way you choose to go, more amusing stuff with Science please!
And live events are fantastic too! But I’d be wary of doing them too often; I’ll happily stay up for hours for a one-off but I can imagine that the need for sleep would take over if it was, say, a weekly event.
Orange chocolate moosy-thing looks intriguing; I must experiment to see if any other combinations would work…
Jonas | 2009-09-09 22:17:21 UTC
Also, my wife meant to say “oops”, not “ops”. I’m sorry. She can’t help it, apparently. But she does like your show.
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Peter | 2009-09-10 01:13:21 UTC
Yes, I would very much be interested in the more frequent, less edited, blathering about cooking and food to camera idea. That sounds brilliant.
Don’t get me wrong; I like the big edited ones quite a bit, but I’m always learning new and interesting stuff from KKC and would like this to continue. I’d prefer to get lots of bits of knowledge than just one or two that are exquisitely presented.
PJW
Peter | 2009-09-10 01:15:00 UTC
Also – do you think the chocolate mousse thing would work with some kind of mint stuff rather than orange juice?
PJW
Skip Henderson, Boy Chef | 2009-09-10 03:03:45 UTC
I am so glad to see you again. Please do more "get somebody that doesn’t know how to cook tries to cook ‘s recipes. Those are my favorites. The live show was great.
Frankly, I don’t care how you present your show, because it is, after all, your show. I liked the one you did with the hand-held blenders, too.
I’d like to see you do some extracts, too; how to make them and use them.
Other than that, I too agree with Jonas.
Leah | 2009-09-10 05:20:28 UTC
Yay for using actual real orange juice like Tropicana and not the annoying irradiated stuff in the box that most folks in the UK seem to like shudder. I want to say, hey folks, WWII ended a long time ago, and Italy is pretty close by! Fruit needn’t be rationed! I remember when I was there 10 years ago, all I could find in terms of real orange juice was blood orange Tropicana, which was nice to drink, but I’m not sure how it would do in this particular recipe.
I kinda didn’t hear exactly what the instructions were on when to stop whisking, but I think otherwise the recipe looks really easy.
As for KKC. I appreciate the amount of work you put into stuff. I wouldn’t mind a lot of informal stuff and all night craziness with the occasional produced episode. :)
Hugh | 2009-09-11 11:16:00 UTC
Thanks very much for all the comments, everyone! We’re overwhelmed at all the praise. More stuff DEFINITELY coming soon now.
From the feedback, I think we’re going to look into doing more sciencey/instructioney things and more Normal Person vs, in one format or another. More loosely-edited stuff too, although we’ll still be trying to produce more episodes from time to time.
Leah – Stop whisking when it goes all thick, basically. Like whisking eggs.
Peter – Yep, provided it’s water-based and doesn’t have too much wierd stuff in it, more or less any liquid should work. DOn’t know about highly alcoholic stuff, although I’d be interested to try it. But a minty liquid should be fine, and would taste awesome.
Robert – I’d be very interested to hear about other combinations. INdeed, if you try ‘em, report back and we’ll blog it! (Ditto Peter and anyone else)
Scatman Dan | 2009-09-11 13:16:36 UTC
Video blogs! Keep ’em coming!
But consider investing in a mini-tripod or something so we can have a nice “not-up-your-nose-cam” view. Yeah? =o)
Hugh | 2009-09-11 20:52:43 UTC
That’s actually WITH a mini-tripod.
But I’ve identified a very nice not-mini tripod, so I’ll invest in that soon.
thalis | 2009-09-12 09:54:48 UTC
Nice! I ’ve tried successfully a few times the chocolate – water mixture chantilly (with a liitle bit of butter…) but never the chocolate – orange chantilly.
P.S. I never managed to do it with with white chocolate, have you?
Sunny Kalsi | 2009-09-15 13:24:48 UTC
WB. The new camera does look nice. I think a video blog would work rather well. I was thinking of “Movies you may have missed” where they have a very simple fixed camera setup and it seems like they do it all in one take. I don’t know if it would even be possible to shoot a cooking show like that, but it may be worth thinking about.
Keep up the good work, we appreciate the effort.
Neil | 2009-09-19 21:23:22 UTC
I think the video blog format is excellent. What would really make it the format for KKC is videos where the three of you interact – that’s what makes KKC for me.
Mark | 2009-10-20 21:51:18 UTC
Good thing you’re off the Fife diet, that Talisker 10 doesn’t qualify. I liked the episodes, but if video blogging is all your life gives you time for, then I’ll take that. I totally understand the problem, my day jobe consumes most of my whisky and mixology writing time.
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