| Episode ideas? | Hugh 2009-02-09 13:08:00 UTC |
It’s that time of year – the time when the KKC team start thinking about episode ideas. We’re intending to begin shooting a single episode in the fairly near future, with Season 1 coming later in the year. With that in mind – give us ideas! Ideas for episodes! Ideas for stuff you want to see us investigate! Ideas for celebrity chefs you want to see us test! Ideas for insane cookery techniques We Must Try! Don’t worry about whether you think we can do it on our budget (although cheap ideas certainly are appreciated). Just splurge it out. What do you think we should be doing/eating/cooking/testing/showing/burning/exploding? | |
| Matthieu Weber | 2009-02-09 13:24:41 UTC Mayonnaise? Especially since old French cook books seem to mention that women having their period cannot make mayonnaise (Hervé This mentions this in his books, as well as the fact that he has conducted an experiment that has proven this wrong). I’m very fond of emulsions in general, and mayonnaise is a perfect example of an emulsion. Additionally, if you can find an ultrasonic chamber/bath/device/something, you can try to make mayonnaise with ultrasound (again This mentions this method, but I haven’t experimented). Additionally, you can make mayonnaise with melted chocolate and juice instead of oil and vineagar. | |
| Boris Legradic | 2009-02-09 13:37:43 UTC Hey Hugh, avid follower of KKC here.
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| Bob | 2009-02-09 14:18:34 UTC Ice cream! The application of science (Xantham Gum) I’d like to see more application of fun tools like the iSi Whipping Dispenser (Something like Carbonated fruit, but different). Other MG related things like flexible chocolate would be neat. | |
| Somenone | 2009-02-09 14:28:21 UTC Chinese Cookery, if you dare. ;) | |
| Wren | 2009-02-09 14:45:05 UTC How about cooking for one, or how to make leftovers interesting? Day 4 or 5 of Pasta Bake is pretty dire. And what about the tricky problem of converting between US and UK amounts and ingredients? | |
| Stuart Carter | 2009-02-09 15:07:34 UTC to Boris: distillation is strictly and explicitly illegal, with savage penalties, unless you pay lots of money. To Hugh: I have just started cheese making… it isn’t quick, but it is very relaxing :) | |
| Alison Rowan | 2009-02-09 15:55:41 UTC Wild foods? Especially if it’s anything-except-nettle-soup. Or sell-by dates if you’re into the debunking… | |
| B.Dewhirst | 2009-02-09 15:58:22 UTC I’m pretty sure you’ve got a better idea of how many domestic versus foreign readers you’ve got (particulary after The Great Boing, which is when I tuned in)… I read a Americans don’t really grok what a kabab shop is (unless it is just a place that serves meat on a stick). Having consulted wikipedia, I’ve learned that you don’t mean quite the same thing by “baked beans” as we do (which is a good thing, otherwise the thought of someone injesting them for breakfast would be a bit sickening.) (There is also the small matter of “someone” getting the great idea to infect all of our food with high fructose corn syrup.) Until recently, I was under the impression that Tikki Massala was an Indian dish (I’d only had it at Indian Resturaunts.) Any possibility of “a guide to British foods for dumb yanks?” | |
| Bob | 2009-02-09 17:51:04 UTC I think you could make a series of untraditional/different food pairings like savory applications of chocolate, pork banana and cloves (sounds strange, but look it up, it is good), spiced honey (topping for ice cream). Bread making could also be a great show. | |
| Kris Jones | 2009-02-09 18:38:05 UTC I’m with Boris on cheap cooking ideas. I’d nominate risotto as a candidate, though you do need to cook it properly. How about something on the effects of refrigeration? Recently a friend told me he’d discovered his roast potatoes tasted much better when he’d used some previously cooked potatoes from the fridge. I read last week that there’s some scientific basis for this – when refrigerated the starches begin to turn into sugars. That set me thinking about how some foods do taste better when cold rather than hot – cold sausages seem more flavoursome than hot. Is there some science behind that? It would be interesting to know. | |
| cb | 2009-02-09 19:35:19 UTC i’m a huge fan of “normal person vs.” | |
| Annie | 2009-02-09 20:46:15 UTC Me, too! I’d like to see more normal person vs episodes. Also, I second whoever suggested Chinese cooking. Asian cooking in general is a mystery to me, and I like to know more about its techniques, flavors, and methods. Plus, I think playing around with the Scoville scale would be entertaining. I saw Paul’s post about eating chilis and just had to laugh. | |
| daubermaus | 2009-02-09 23:30:14 UTC Normal person vs Eric Ripert. http://aveceric.com/ He regularly posts video how to’s with recipes. Also cook offs of convience mixes vs from scratch. | |
| Sunny Kalsi | 2009-02-10 00:44:16 UTC I enjoy your blog articles about convenience food. A review of some convenience foods wouldn’t be a bad idea, considering you guys are all about the FUTURE. You also have a bunch of knowledge about preservatives and what not. This might be a long term thing, but (for science) one of you could go on a total health diet and try and completely tank up / lose weight. You could try and disprove the “no pain no gain” thing? I’m also with Boris Re. herbs. They seem like arbitrary choices until you taste something friggin fantastic using em. Other convention-challenging food ideas might be a good thing. Ideas around measuring what you eat? Nutrition advice? Experiments with food? This is science, after all! | |
| Hugh | 2009-02-10 11:42:04 UTC Thanks, everyone! These are all fantastic ideas (and I mean that – I’ve not seen one that I just went “naaaah” to). We’ll talk them over at the next meeting. | |
| Jonas | 2009-02-10 11:58:57 UTC 1. It may seem boring, but how about just presenting some cool recipes and how to make them (with SCIENCE)? What are your favourites? 2. Normal Person VS Mr. T 3. I second the ice cream idea. 4. My girlfriend would like to know how to make perfect pizza dough. There’s a lot of recipes out there, not all of them necessarily good. | |
| Louise Dennis | 2009-02-10 12:01:54 UTC We keep debating the value of skins and crusts – for instance, despite what my mother said I can not imagine that bread crust is any better for you than the rest of the loaf. What about potato skin though? And are the spare crusts from Crusts Away bread turned into something useful like breadcrumbs or discarded? No idea how to make this dynamic and interesting but good answers would reduce parental angst. To what extent should children be forced to try a wide range of food if they are already prepared to eat stuff from all food groups? – is another question which inspires much angst. Again, no idea how to make interesting. | |
| Dougal Stanton | 2009-02-10 13:32:58 UTC @Louise: That’s bound to make the KK crew happy, since a beautiful crust is all about the Maillard reactions. :-) | |
| Louise Dennis | 2009-02-10 15:03:03 UTC @Dougal I think you may have just earned my daughter’s eternal enmity NB: I’m having trouble with the captcha – either I can’t read or this comment is suddenly going to appear 3 times | |
| Alex OH | 2009-02-10 17:30:30 UTC Recently spit roasted a pig for my 21st birthday. Was quite expensive (£1 per lb for a full size pig – 140lb ish) but a great way to feed a whole party, and a good excuse for a party if you don’t have another. | |
| Moe Rubenzahl | 2009-02-10 20:31:25 UTC Engine Block Cookery. Foil-wrapped foodstuffs, adhere to your engine block, drive somewhere. When you get there, dinner. Been done but I think you can make it — more. | |
| Helen | 2009-02-10 22:00:07 UTC I saw a recipe on the internet about making cake with cake mix and diet soft drink. Give that a whirl! http://recipes.sparkpeople.com/recipe-detail.asp?recipe=51337 | |
| Helen | 2009-02-10 22:02:18 UTC I saw something on the internet recently about making a cake with cake mix and a diet soft drink. Why not give that a whirl? http://recipes.sparkpeople.com/recipe-detail.asp?recipe=51337 | |
| Ronald | 2009-02-11 01:42:28 UTC How about some kind of semi endangered or exotic animal cook-off? You could also could do some kind of episode about tomato sauces and how adding different ingredients changes the chemical makeup when stewed. For example, many store brands have added sweeteners in the sauce. | |
| Evangeline Whittaker | 2009-02-11 06:47:20 UTC is that seriously the best ideas you guys can come up with? these are all things that taste reasonably palatable on prior to cooking. if KKC is looking to try something different why not attempt to make a palatable meal using crickes and or sawdust as a principle flavoring component. or, if you prefer a molecular gastronomy bent how about foamed beef. as for the ‘“Normal” person Vs’ series take someone with a real physics and or chemistry degree against anything from the fat duck. | |
| Matthieu Weber | 2009-02-11 08:11:08 UTC @Evangeline Whittaker: sawdust cannot be assimilated by the human body, so putting it into food may not be a good idea. Getting flavour out of sawdust, on the other hand, may be something that can be attempted. Wood tar is used as a flavouring in candies in Northen Europe countries, but getting your hands on food-grade tar may be tricky (when I tried to make tar ice cream, I dissolved tar-flavoured gum drops into the hot milk, which made it curdle). Now, since someone earlier mentioned distillation, may I suggest distillating something else than alcohol? Hervé This mentioned this several times, adding that distillation is forbidden only for alcohol, but you can for example distillate herbs in order to produce essential oils (thyme, rosmary and such; beware that estragon essential oil is highly carcinogenic). This of course requires several kilograms of fresh herbs, which can be tricky to obtain at a reasonable price in winter. More food for thoughts: Hervé This many times complained about regular kitchen equipment having been designed 1000 years ago (except the microwave oven) and wonders why modern cooks don’t use some of the glassware that is commonly found in chemistry labs (separatory funnel for separating oil from water, Soxhlet extractor for extracting the flavour from solids into a liquid, sintered-glass funnel for clearing a broth…) or partial vacuum cooking using a pressure cooker where the valve is connected to a water aspirator for removing water from a preparation without having to boil it at 100 °C. | |
| Helen | 2009-02-11 19:54:23 UTC I just noticed I posted twice, I didn’t think the first one went through. How spammy! Many apologies! | |
| jimmy b | 2009-02-12 01:40:14 UTC Yeah! More Normal Person Vs. D-Bag Celebrity Chefs I’ve heard folks complaining about the complexity of Martha Stewart recipes— “gala goose”, meringues and spongecakes. | |
| Evangeline Whittaker | 2009-02-12 04:22:59 UTC @Mattheiu its called fiber. | |
| Matthieu Weber | 2009-02-12 08:43:48 UTC @Evangeline It seems’s you’re right. At least rabbits have been fed saw dust as a source of dietary fiber: The link however doesn’t show if it has been beneficial or harmfull to the poor bunnies. More seriously, I don’t know how much saw dust should be processed to become an acceptable form of dietary fiber, but in its usual form it seems (that’s just my opinion) too coarse, and potentially harmfull for the intestine. | |
| Hugh | 2009-02-12 13:45:36 UTC Helen – no worries! Let us know if anyone has more CAPTCHA problems. Ooh – Martha Stewart. Excellent idea. Martha vs Delia, perhaps? | |
| Ronald | 2009-02-12 18:40:47 UTC Had another idea. Extreme cooking situations. 1) Can you cook eggs on a sidewalk in a heatwave? I don’t know what your climate is like but I’ve been in hundred degree heat waves in New york. Maybe heat up the street with one of your torches… 2) Car engine cooking? Can you make an edible meal with the heat generated from a vehicle. I read an urban legend that construction workers would do this. 3) Extreme foraging challenge. Can you throw a small dinner party with only food you can scrounge? 4) Cooking with thermite? Hell its just cool to set off thermite. 5) Pensioner puppy chow challenge. How nutritious is animal feed and how long could someone survive if its their staple food source? This maybe extremely useful as the economic collapse continues. Extra points if you can make it palatable. | |
| Matthieu Weber | 2009-02-13 10:54:04 UTC @Ronald: 1) You need 62 °C (144 °F) to coagulate the egg white. I’m not sure if the sidewalk can heat that much, even with direct exposure to the sun. 2) A friend once told me that his father (a construction worker) mentioned cooking a sheep in a pit full of hot tar (the kind you put on the roads). Another classical is to cook a whole chicken in clay. The clay sticks to the feathers and it gets plucked when you break the clay. I suppose you need to empty (gut?) the chicken first… | |
| Brian Baglow | 2009-02-13 11:41:35 UTC Hugh, Also, myth-busting the Galswegian ‘munchie box’, deep fried pizza and the hellish association Scotland has with the deep fried [chocolate bar] needs looked into. B. | |
| Hugh | 2009-02-14 14:06:07 UTC The Deep Fried Mars Bar is a thing of beauty – it has to be tried to be believed. Deep fried pizza, not so much. Love the foraging idea! And the chicken in clay – I’ve been thinking about doing a pit roast… | |
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| Stu | 2009-02-16 16:35:46 UTC Blessed are the cheesemakers. You can tell the future with cheese, you know. It’s called tiromancy. That might be interesting. I suspect your future might involve… some cheese. I’d love to see you guys tackle a full-on Heston recipe. How about the trifle one, where you need a power drill and a hairdryer? You’ve got a hairdryer. | |
| EGW | 2009-02-19 00:01:25 UTC Hey guys, just found the site – great stuff ! One suggestion: Did you ever look into this whole “molecular cooking” thing ? I mean, talking science and food, and hilarious but fun stuff. Try spheres – I had tons of fun experimenting with that stuff. Goes a bit with the “normal person vs.” idea, but is a bit more sciencey ;) Cheers, | |
| Robert J Lee | 2009-02-20 15:23:35 UTC A Kamikaze Cookery Cooking Contest? How about putting possible cooking myths on trial, sort of like you did with preheating ovens, but in a proper courtroom setting with a case for the prosecution and a case for the defence? Or how about turning the cooking show on its head with scientific culinary experiments that you can play along with at home? | |
| Rob Tinsley | 2009-02-23 12:13:37 UTC I think you need to look more into the myth that British food is crap. Grab a foreign friend to help out. Preferably french. Teach them how to cook a good traditional dish. Can you find an australian to do a barbecue-off against in the summer? Something about the demise of the fish’n’chippy and the rise of the curry house. Just lots more about curries, both the english versions, and the original inspirations. Nutrition and poverty/scarcity. George Orwell had an interesting shopping list in The Road to Wigan Pier for how to feed a family cheaply and well. How much would that cost now? Is the list any good? And what about rationing? How did people make do then? Rationing-era recipes? Science! The fat and calorie content of various fast foods. Include kebabs. | |
| Clare | 2009-03-01 20:52:50 UTC Any chance of something about steaming veg and stuff? I know it’s supposed to cook vegetables perfectly without cooking all the goodness and flavour out of them but I haven’t got round to trying it properly. Any tips? I’d be more interested in old-fashioned manual steaming than buy an electric steam cooker steaming though. Also, I’m looking forward to the next series. :) | |
| Bob | 2009-03-02 20:21:21 UTC How about a show (or blog posting) about things that are worth making by hand and things that you are better off purchasing? For example: I am sure there are plenty of other things too, Yogurt, Snack food or Enegery/Protein bars, Preserves/Jams or Peanut Butter (or almond, etc). You could probably make a competition out of this some how. | |
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| Robert J Lee | 2009-04-06 15:57:35 UTC Not sure if this may be too tenuous/complex, but I had an idea so I thought I’d share it. I’ve only been backpacking once, but I found the best thing to take with me for food was Army Surplus 24 hour ration packs. These pack a reasonably balanced diet for one (very active) person into a surprisingly small space, using a minimum of extra weight. They have a good shelf life, and I’m told they’re also good for longer outdoor events like paintballing and LARP weekends. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/4221838.stm The problem is there’s only so many menus of ration pack available, they get boring after a while, and if you don’t want to spend a fortune then you’ll need to buy a pack of ten of the same meal. One option is to make my own, but I don’t know enough about the science to do it. How about a how-to style episode on building your own ration packs, with an emphasis on getting the best variety of flavour, perhaps by using different stock/drippings when preparing them to get one main course with several flavours? Or even the science behind them: eg if you lived on these for some time, would the lack of fresh fruit and veg’ be a problem? |
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